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GDF Studio Jalen White Leather Bar Stools, Set of 2

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Pennie 27 inch Counter stool by Kosas Home

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Hanna Counter Stool, 25.5" Seat Height, Oak

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Buehl

First of all, the recommended seating overhang has nothing to do with counter material...it applies to granite, soapstone, quartz, wood, laminate, etc. Second, you will need support for any material...for stone, follow the "6 & 10" rule. For 2cm stone, any overhang > 6" will need support. For 3cm stone, any overhang > 10" will need support. So, for the recommended 15" overhang, you will need the following support: 2cm stone: 15" - 6" = 9" of support 3cm stone: 15" - 10" = 5" of support For a 12" overhang...you do need support...2" of it for 3cm stone & 6" for 2cm. Anyone who tells you differently is incorrect. Some people will skimp on overhang for a variety of reasons (most commonly b/c they're trying to squeeze in seating where there really isn't room or they're trying to avoid having to support it). However, skimping on overhang, while it may reduce or eliminate the need for support, will not make an inadequate space "work". People will take up the same amount of room regardless of the overhang you provide. The adult human body can "squeeze in" only so much. What happens is that people will still sit as far back, but now they have to lean in quite a bit further to reach the counter or they have to "straddle" the cabinets or they have to sit sideways. None of those is comfortable for any length of time. It may be OK if someone is just "perching" for a short period of time, but not for prolonged conversation & visiting or meals (even breakfast or lunch). Yes, people in general can adapt to or "make do" with just about anything (that's why people will sit sideways, straddle, etc.), but is that the goal of your remodel...to "make do"? If you're spending all this $$$$ on a remodel, I would think you would want to make it the best you can...first & foremost functionally and then aesthetically. So, don't skimp on overhang and plan for adequate aisle widths, adequate workspace in the primary Zones (Prep, Cooking, Cleanup), adequate work and landing space around appliances (cooktop/range, refrigerator, oven(s), sink(s), DW, etc.), and good workflow...Storage --> Prep Zone --> Cooking Zone --> Cleanup Zone w/minimum zone crossing/overlaps/conflicts. Good luck!

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Reply to: First of all, the recommended seating overhang has nothing to do with counter material...it applies to granite, soapstone, quartz, wood, laminate, etc. Second, you will need support for any material...for stone, follow the "6 & 10" rule. For 2cm stone, any overhang > 6" will need support. For 3cm stone, any overhang > 10" will need support. So, for the recommended 15" overhang, you will need the following support: 2cm stone: 15" - 6" = 9" of support 3cm stone: 15" - 10" = 5" of support For a 12" overhang...you do need support...2" of it for 3cm stone & 6" for 2cm. Anyone who tells you differently is incorrect. Some people will skimp on overhang for a variety of reasons (most commonly b/c they're trying to squeeze in seating where there really isn't room or they're trying to avoid having to support it). However, skimping on overhang, while it may reduce or eliminate the need for support, will not make an inadequate space "work". People will take up the same amount of room regardless of the overhang you provide. The adult human body can "squeeze in" only so much. What happens is that people will still sit as far back, but now they have to lean in quite a bit further to reach the counter or they have to "straddle" the cabinets or they have to sit sideways. None of those is comfortable for any length of time. It may be OK if someone is just "perching" for a short period of time, but not for prolonged conversation & visiting or meals (even breakfast or lunch). Yes, people in general can adapt to or "make do" with just about anything (that's why people will sit sideways, straddle, etc.), but is that the goal of your remodel...to "make do"? If you're spending all this $$$$ on a remodel, I would think you would want to make it the best you can...first & foremost functionally and then aesthetically. So, don't skimp on overhang and plan for adequate aisle widths, adequate workspace in the primary Zones (Prep, Cooking, Cleanup), adequate work and landing space around appliances (cooktop/range, refrigerator, oven(s), sink(s), DW, etc.), and good workflow...Storage --> Prep Zone --> Cooking Zone --> Cleanup Zone w/minimum zone crossing/overlaps/conflicts. Good luck!

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dekton countertops

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Karen Overstreet

We installed Dekton Keon about a month ago as part of a complete kitchen remodel. We have a large kitchen with multiple sinks and stovetops, so it was complicated. Though we don't have long-term experience yet with Dekton, we love it so far - the counters look fantastic, are easy to clean, and we don't worry about setting hot pots on them. We have multiple seams, so we'll see how that goes in the future. The island has a 12 inch overhang with steel supports. The soffit above the gas stovetop is also ringed with Dekton. I would make sure that you have a high quality installer as installation is complicated. Anything that doesn't fit has to be taken back to the dealer and recut. We had some problems with inaccurate measurements and challenges because the house isn't level (whose is?). Installers had to come 3 separate times to get everything right and it took a whole week. Keon has an industrial look, which we love. Photos are attached.

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Reply to: We installed Dekton Keon about a month ago as part of a complete kitchen remodel. We have a large kitchen with multiple sinks and stovetops, so it was complicated. Though we don't have long-term experience yet with Dekton, we love it so far - the counters look fantastic, are easy to clean, and we don't worry about setting hot pots on them. We have multiple seams, so we'll see how that goes in the future. The island has a 12 inch overhang with steel supports. The soffit above the gas stovetop is also ringed with Dekton. I would make sure that you have a high quality installer as installation is complicated. Anything that doesn't fit has to be taken back to the dealer and recut. We had some problems with inaccurate measurements and challenges because the house isn't level (whose is?). Installers had to come 3 separate times to get everything right and it took a whole week. Keon has an industrial look, which we love. Photos are attached.

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double oven microwave combo

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White with gray top

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Backslash tile

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Pantry by window

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Counter color

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Ivory backslash - yuck

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Stove surrounded by windows... Just good for visualization

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Obviously not a kitchen but concrete look with white... Looks nice!

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Layout

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Just getting my head around dimensions

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Just getting my head around dimensions

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Island ligjts

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Lights over island

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Hard wood and super modern

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Not acrylic but nice

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Love this

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This is perfect

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Hood

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roughly the dimensions we'd have to fit into

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I think this is about the dimensions we'd have to fit into

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interesting - put a long bench on the other side??

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table layout

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this is the layout I'm thinking of for our kitchen...

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layout of bar with sink (bar height counter conceals sink)

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just looking to distance between couch and kitchen

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Another option - put the stove in the corner??

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island with stove and microwave

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our layout in the mirror (only where the white door is would be pantry and there would be more space between the fridge and the sink-side of the kitchen.

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basically our layout in the mirror

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island with stove top and seating

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island with stove and seating

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island with stove

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Shelving for end of kitchen

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