Kitchen layout- really need help
I am looking for help arranging this kitchen. I keep focusing on the pantry. The pantry is a 3 X 5. Accessing the space seems too tight to me. Is a reach in pantry possible? I really want to fix this area. Next to the staircase, the design has full cupboards, or 2 base cabinets with a coffee bar between (deciding) . As I have a toaster oven, coffee pot, instant pot, and a blender that gets frequent use, this is appealing to me. However, I am open to another setup. This is lakeview, so I wish to keep the window wall as is. The kitchen area is an addition, but the size is set. It is just my husband and I living here and potentially my elderly parents. My husband and I cook together, but we don't bake often. I am very open to suggestions. I hope I have included the needed dimensions and information. Please let me know if more information is needed.
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Buehl
5 years agoWelcome to the Kitchens Forum Brikar!
Do you have a fully-measured layout of the space for your Kitchen? E.g., you mentioned the window wall is "set", so I assume that you mean you cannot/do not want to move the windows.
The Kitchens Forum has a set of FAQs that describe everything from how to ask for layout help and what information we need to discussing good design principles/best practices for a kitchen layout. I'll post the info below. [As an FYI, I'm in the process of cleaning up the FAQs (they were the victim of the migration to Houzz a couple of years ago) as well as updating other information to reflect the changes made by Houzz last Friday.]
Note that since you mentioned your elderly parents living with you, you will probably get comments about how to make your layout more accessible as well by using Universal Design Principles. Plan for a walker and, possibly, a wheelchair, which means limiting the number of tight corners/turns, wider hallways & doorways, etc.
For now, I'm focusing on your Kitchen....
This is a sample layout of what others have been asking for. Note the information on the layout -- this information really helps! It includes the widths of each wall/window/door/doorway and the distances b/w each wall/window/door/doorway as well the locations of immovable objects, etc. If something like water cannot be moved, that should be marked as well.
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Now to the resources...
Kitchen Design Best Practices/Guidelines threads - These threads explain best practices/good design guidelines for items such as work zones, aisles, island/peninsula seating, etc. These threads will help you understand questions/comments you will receive.
Layout Help - FAQ for asking for layout help. It has a sample measured layout as well as a description of the other information we need
Read Me thread - Other, helpful information for using and navigating the Kitchens Forum. Especially useful if you are new to the Kitchens Forum!
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New to Kitchens? Read Me First!
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Layout Help:
How do I ask for Layout Help and what information should I include?
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Kitchen Design Best Practices/Guidelines threads:
Kitchen work zones, what are they?
Aisle widths, walkways, seating overhangs, work and landing space, and others
How do I plan for storage? Types of Storage? What to Store Where?
Ice. Water. Stone. Fire (Looking for layout help? Memorize this first)
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5 years agoMany of the dimensions are there, but a few key ones are missing. I've drawn up what we need and what I need you double-check.
Blue lines/text: Missing measurement
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Red lines/text: Please double check the measurement at the point that I show the lines. Walls are not always straight, so dimensions can be different at different points. The locations where I put the arrows are key locations.
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brikar
5 years ago
I probably should have shown the entire plan, so you could see it better. I was focused on the kitchen. A- 17'6" , B- 16'4" , C- 18'2" , D 2'6" , E- Correct, F- Correct G- 5'9" 3/8 (not built) H- Correct
I am not sure of the space around the table- We definitely have 32 " clearance around table. Looks like more than that between island and table. I hope this is helpful.
brikar
5 years agobrikar
5 years agoartistsharonva
5 years agoSome concerns..
36" walkway is 1 user walkby. Tight in general. Too tight for aginging parents on possible walkers/wheelchairs.
Fridge next to wall, be careful. A lot of people have made that mistake & the door could not fully open or take drawers out.
Get fridge install manuals to designers & installers. Looks something like this.
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5 years agoBuehl
5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoHere is an idea...
See how nicely separated the primary work zones are (Prep, Cooking, Cleanup)? This will allow both you and your DH to work together without getting in each other's way.
The island provides plenty of seating. However, your parents will most likely use the table, not the island as raised seating, even only counter-height, is often difficult and uncomfortable for elderly people. Even your DH may eventually have trouble with the island.
Something to consider, perhaps lower the counter on the left side of the perimeter sink so someone in a wheelchair can use it.
Wall oven & MW...I put in a single wall oven with a MW above it. I found that with double wall ovens it's tough to get them both at a good height. You end up with the lower oven a bit low and the upper oven too high (unless you are a very, very tall family).
However, a MW above a wall oven may be too high for your parents. If that's the case, consider a MW drawer. They're mounted below the counter but they're a drawer, not a standard MW. The controls are angled up so they are readable w/o squatting down. In addition, b/c it's a drawer, it's easy to put food in/take it out. If you need to stir, just open, stir, close...no removing the food or reaching blindly in to stir. It could go in the 24" cabinet b/w the cooktop and the refrigerator.
Refrigerator & Utility...Note the 12" wide Utility cabinet b/w the wall and the refrigerator. This is what you need to allow the refrigerator doors to open fully. In addition, it provides a place for your broom, mop, etc.
Perimeter...Note that the perimeter cabinets & counters are all 3" deeper standard. This will give you more workspace as well as provide more space for the coffee pot, Instant Pot, and toaster oven.
- Base cabinets: 27"D
- Upper cabinets: 15"D
- Counters: 28.5"D
- If you cannot get deeper base cabinets, they can be pulled 3" from the wall when they're installed. 15"D upper cabinets have become common in most cabinet lines.
Pantry...I widened the pantry to 4' deep. This gives you room to access the shelves when in the pantry. I would have liked to see a 36" door, however, there isn't enough space for one -- unless you eliminate the door altogether and just have an open doorway.
Layout:(Select/click on the images for larger versions.)
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