POLL: What's the most stressful part of a renovation?

8 years ago

A home improvement project can be lots of fun, but it can also induce quite a lot of stress. Thinking about a previous project that you've completed, or perhaps a project you're in the midst of, what's stresses you out the most about it?

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Finding the right professional

Sticking to a budget

Deciding on a style

Keeping the home in order during the project

Unforeseen delays

Working with my partner

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Victoria Hopkins

8 years ago

Getting trades in - can't get people to come out and quote never mind do the work. It took over a year to get someone out to put new stair rails in for us. About to embark on a big renovation project on all the bedrooms, I'm dreading trying to get people in especially as we want the work done and dusted this side of Christmas!

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Joanna Biddolph
8 years ago
Septimus, it was transforming a loft but in a Grade II listed building so not just carpets/redecorating but RSJs (the biggest crane I'd ever seen), an overly vigilant local society, nervous planners and neighbours with competing interests (a party wall issue that the neighbour didn't understand) and it wasn't a kit that get's stuck on top of a building but bespoke and wonderful and still very wow factor. Everything was totally screened off and dust protected but that's the theory; in practice, dust creeps regardless of how thick the thickest plastic screens are and the noise penetrates from one storey to the next. I have nothing but praise for my very clever and talented architect and the contractors (a manager, a sparks, a plumber, a chippy, a decorator of the highest calibre) were all wonderful and I've worked with them all again. They can't stop noise or dust and both are very, very wearing. Eight months because of the challenges as mentioned above and the unforeseen which always arise. Getting the RSJs in proved to be far from straightforward and that was just the start.
septimus1
8 years ago
Joanna.

In the scale of difficulty, new carpeting, painting a bedroom, fitting a new worktop etc are the least stressful operations and rarely result in much more than a headache, lasting for only a few days. Adding a new ground-floor extension to one's property is a lot more complicated and can cause divorces which I believe can be very stressful. Having a new house built is even more stress-inducing simply because there are far more people likely to say or do the wrong thing and upset one's day and, of course, for a much longer time.

But making extensive changes to the loft of a Grade II building over eight months whilst continuing to 'live' there, where RSJ's need to be craned in, yet still coping with daily battles with neighbours, dust, dirt, noise and officialdom is way up at the top of 'stress-producing building experiences' in my humble opinion and you are to be congratulated for surviving to tell the tale! Take a bow Joanna but do not attempt it again! Good to hear some praise for your team, too!
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Ann Nisbet Studio
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We find that living on the 'building site' is often stressful for our clients. Our advice would always be, if possible, is to move out during the renovation work.
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It is very easy to lose track of time especially when you haven't calculated unforeseen circumstances.
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Septimus, I'm in the middle of doing it again. This time a 1927 house that was lived in by one family (several generations) since it was built and with very little done other than a few newer sockets dotted around the place and a kitchen that had been dabbled with in the 1950s. So ... rewiring (through the hardest brick my electricians had ever encountered), replumbing including new boiler and first time ever radiators, new kitchen (contractor ordered randomly on another's account and disappeared owing me squids and the account he'd used unpaid), new bathroom in a new place, new shower room where the bathroom and basin were (plumber sacked as his team were not experienced and seemed only to have done a bit of DIY; many chipped tiles and ungrouted strips and corners), new loo where the old loo was (bad installation thanks to previously mentioned plumber) and now all the decorating to do and let's not even think how I'm going to pay for carpets throughout (it was lino which was deteriorating before my eyes - put down a table or chair, it stuck - melting into the decaying layers). And, yes, I'm living here throughout. I suspect it's like childbirth; one forgets the pain and goes through it again. Marvellous electricians; marvellous kitchen planner/fitter; marvellous carpenter; marvellous neighbours (gave them tickets to go up The Shard to thank them for putting up with all the noise). And a project that might never end, it seems.
septimus1
8 years ago
Joanna,

If you are not too busy with all these personal building contracts perhaps you should offer your services as a full-time 'Project Manager' !
Joanna Biddolph
8 years ago
No way, Septimus1! It's hard enough doing mine.
Cakelady
8 years ago
The most stressful part of our two storey extension was getting planning permission. Our builders have been amazing and I've not found the build stressful. I'm finding making decisions about the interior quite stressful, flooring, paint colours etc.
shantung
8 years ago
Complete renovation - inside and out including gardens. Most stressful element when the build uncovers additional items that have to be done and all monies are gone! and the place is in an unliveable state, so you have to go on with the build.
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briantaylor90
8 years ago
The descriptions 'tradesmen' and 'professionals', used quite liberally in a lot of the above posts, are mostly inaccurate. The market at the moment is flooded with cowboys who should never be let anywhere near to anyone's homes - thankfully few get near mine after rarely turning up in the first place! One of the above comments is spot on - if you find anyone good, look after them as if they are your own family - they are a very rare breed indeed. Sadly, the boom and bust nature of the housing and construction industries in this country has resulted in very little proper investment in the next generations. As a result I generally wouldn't employ the services of anyone under the age of 40 or who hasn't done a proper apprenticeship. Better still, do as much as possible yourself!
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septimus1
8 years ago
Brian Taylor raises another stressful experience of home improvement projects and one that can really hurt.

It's when you realise that your builder is in fact one of the 'cowboys' that you've heard about but didn't think you were dumb enough to be caught out by someone like that - but you are. He's long gone and even if you can find him you cannot get him (or your money) back. He might have got away with defects you didn't notice when you paid him in full or he might have substituted inferior/cheaper materials for those you thought you were getting and for which you paid him. Yes you can call in the Small Claims Court if it is a small sum but it is a pain to have to do that for say a couple of hundred pounds and it takes ages too. If its a largish sum calling in the solicitors is often the only option and there's a whole of stress involved there. We can't all call in 'Dom' and his TV crew so what do we all do? The majority of us have little option but to grin and bear it while the cowboy is off doing it again somewhere else. He's got away with it yet again and we are seething, thinking about bringing back hanging or those convict ships that used to sail to Australia or something.

There's only one way to solve the problem - name and shame and make sure everyone in your locality/town/country knows about him - or does someone have a more workable solution?
Kim Teasdale
8 years ago
Most important factors when employing any tradesperson:
1. Always employ the services of a referred tradesperson and if possible, go and have a look at their work.
2. If you pay cheap, you pay twice. The cheapest is usually a cowboy and will cut corners wherever they can to make money.
3. Get a minimum of 3 quotes from different people. There is no rush when decorating your home and it is important to get it done to a high standard so the job will last.
4. Remember that the morse preparation you see, the better.
5. Find out from your referrals if the tradesperson you consider tides up after themselves everyday. When we do, you will be able to see what has been done at the end of each day, and not a mess.
6. Make sure from your referral that your tradesperson is a finisher completer and has an attention to detail.
7. Save up as much money as you can before you start and always have a 10-15% contingency of the price quote set aside for emergencies and unexpected faults or extras.
9. Talk to your contractor every day and ask for a schedule of works.
10. Remember that you are investing in your home and that a great decorator is paramount to the finish of any project as this is what you will see at the en of it all and have to live with.
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Poor project management by the building company can be daunting and even if client is willing to drive that it does not work. The builders are often deployed at two separate projects without the clients approval or knowledge especially towards the end of a project. Implement time delays clauses at the beginning and sign into contracts to avoid frustration and delays
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ensure you pick the right team for the project
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Find and Architect that you can work with.
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Essential to have a builder/contractor on board who understands your needs, requirements and is willing to work closely with you, especially if you intend to stay in the property whilst the work is being undertaken. Equally, ensuring that the Architect provides the fullest package of information to the builder in advance. We've found that most people are okay with the design and planning stages but the actual work programme is by far the most stressful.
LouieT
8 years ago
Wants versus needs are the hardest thing.

Something usually has to give & it's stressful making hundreds of decisions based on budget, planning approvals, availability of items, significant others, trades coordinating, etc & the process is often likened to bearing a child...;)
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Fairacre Property Developments
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working all the little extras out is very difficult.
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Choosing what company to use is the most important factor so becomes very stressful.
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Architect Chartered Services
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CONSIDER IF YOU REALLY CAN LIVE WITH BUILDING GOING ON AROUND YOU, AS THIS STRESSFUL
tiredoldwoman
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Have had some work done in my old rented home. New bathroom last week , it's leaking and I'm still in a mess . On Friday I got a call to say the windows are getting replaced , it happened yesterday , I'm in shock at the mess I came home to . Poor quality replacements, chipboard replacing real wood, holes around windows, rubbish, wrappings, plaster , sawdust all over the floor, blood all over the bathroom ! No communication from the company at all despite them having contact numbers and e mails . They didn't read my note that I left out for them re returning keys . I don't know if they're returning today , I've e mailed a complaint . I'm wheezing and my face has broken out in a rash due to the mess ! Oh dear ! Feeling better after writing all this , though !!
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8 years ago
I find that my clients often come to me because they have difficulties sticking to set budgets whilst still getting the desired looks or desired elements and pieces in their rooms.
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Artemis Conservation
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Communication can be a major problem. contractors need to manage clients expectations a little better. Remember a successful project requires teamwork and cooperation between all parties
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Mulcahy Ralphs Architects
8 years ago
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Paper is cheap, get it right on a drawing before you start
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John McCall Architects
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Delays happen when things are not properly planned - so get the design right first time and then stick to it. Don't loose your nerve part way through and trust your professional advisor/designer.
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8 years ago
As Main Contractor I would agree agree with the designers comments of sticking to the plan and try not to deviate. this causes stress on the budget and program.
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8 years ago
It's difficult to stick to budget as sometimes the most expensive materials/furniture are the ones that always seems to suit the style you are looking for...
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We had a pretty much 'change everything' renovation. The biggest problem? BT.
Joanna Biddolph
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Oh, yes. Now you've reminded me. BT. It wasn't just the lack of speed and the inefficiency. My house still bears the scars of a shoddily installed lead from outside to in.
Sonia Bhayani
8 years ago
I am in the beginning stages of my project, I am struggling with deciding on the style however I am sure my vote will be different by the time the project is underway!
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7 years ago
living in a renovation project while its being done.

recommend moving out getting a main contractor to do whole project to a deadline with agreed penalties.

make sure you plan every detail and stick to your time plan no matter what. plan in a contingency budget so actual budget and move +/- a bit

If you every have the choice/option....ALWAYS NEW BUILD
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Finding out extra costs and delays once you have started
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Unforeseen delays inevitably result in extra costs and time for both contractors and customers. This can easily sour the experience or your renovation.
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The delays in choosing a style can be frustrating and it's unbelievable how much time you can waste deciding!!
septimus1
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The most frustrating thing about a building project? Finding that what you thought would fit, look good, be within budget and time constraints did not and never would have and you have no-one to blame, kick or scream at but yourself. Answer - get an Architect and unload your problems and worries.
apismalifica
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Regardless of what I said before, the most stressful part of renovations is the chaos at the planning office GRRRR!!!!
moiraford
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garycostello
7 years ago
The moving out and its cost,Will I be happy after spending 300k
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Arlington Interiors
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This gives an honest account directly from one of our customers, regarding her kitchen renovation project. Anne's Blog
Rose Williams
6 years ago
TRADESMEN.
It's a miracle when one bothers to quote at all ... as such, I now build walls, can plaster, and drive a digger lol... I tile, fit carpets, fitted the kitchen, all with only half of one of my lower spinal discs left.
By the time you get a quote back, its more often a month or more down the line and have already hired a couple of lads on a daily rate doing things how you dictate after weeks of research.
I hired a roofer to replace my cast iron guttering with aluminium ones, he put up new soffits and fascias BADLY, ran off to assume weigh in my old gutters and ran off with the money for my new ones - steep learning curve there, and a CCJ is no use getting my money back.
I purchased a kitchen, it turned up in bad shape, then commenced over 8 months to get to court for my money back...
Hired a tree co to remove a load of trees overhanging the house and clear the boundary... an old man cried about a tree that wasnt his anyway so the tree folk abandoned the job.
Thankfully I have a great electrician and a reliable plumbing company, but only call them for either gas or. heavier electrical work.... the husband does to electrics and plumbing but he hates it and we do get it checked.
I keep trying to find a good builder though. Everything takes so long and its physically and mentally draining on me.... I would MUCH rather have someone I can trust but no luck yet.
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As I recently found to my horror, the designer can find themselves in an equally horrific situation re renovations- When you send a proposal on a years renovation/build project and your timescale of 6 months at least for the entire house (its big!) And you're told...

"I want 6 bathrooms and 2 downstairs loo's designed, specified and bought in 2 weeks! With lighting plans etc.......before you have even set out a mood board or signed a contract! (yours that you send out to clients!)

Then they (the client) say... "Bathrooms are easy!!!! (You find out they have done one house with a build team they hired before, because they (the build team project manager) said, and they also said they expected me to start when I had suggested ie at least 2 months before.. So as far as easy.....

Might be..... if you want this...

But definitely not, if you want this..... (or something like it)

Needless to say, I declined the job. I produce bespoke, curated interiors for clients who want something significantly different.... :))
sharonnormanton
6 years ago
The lesson here is, only use recommended Tradesmen and don't expect to get anything cheap. The cost of materials these days has gone through the roof, coupled with 20%VAT, both the customer and the tradesmen are stretched.
Heidi Cullen
5 years ago
Waiting for the money to come through and then the gap between then and them starting! I want my new bathroom now!!!!

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